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Suspect's family 'heartbroken' over NM shooting / Musical instrument case, into gun case? Forum


Suspect's family 'heartbroken' over NM shooting

By RUSSELL CONTRERAS and SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN — Jan. 15, 2014 



ROSWELL, N.M. (AP) — The 12-year-old boy who opened fire on a crowd of students in a New Mexico middle school gym had planned the attack and warned some classmates to stay away moments before the gunfire rang out, investigators said Wednesday.
State Police Chief Pete Kassetas said it appeared the victims in Tuesday's shooting at Berrendo Middle School in Roswell — an 11-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl — were chosen randomly.

The shotgun used by the boy came from his family's home, and he had three rounds of ammunition, Kassetas said at a news conference.



Meanwhile, the suspected shooter's family issued a statement Wednesday saying they were heartbroken and that their remorse could not be put into words. They said the two children who were injured have been in their thoughts and prayers. 
  

He said investigators worked through the night executing search warrants at the school, and
determined through those searches that the attack was planned. They examined the boy's locker and the duffel bag the seventh-grader used to transport the .20 gauge shotgun to school.

Kassetas said the handle of the gun was sawed off so it had "more of a pistol grip."


He added authorities had some indication that the boy verbally warned "select students" about the attack as he arrived at the school.


The shooting was over in 10 seconds, officials said, after the boy fired at the ceiling, the floor and then the students. An eighth-grade social studies teacher, John Masterson, then stepped in and talked the boy into dropping his weapon.


Chaves County Sheriff Rob Coon said all the schools in the county, public and private, undergo regular training for dealing with "active shooters."

"The teachers and the staff at Berrendo knew exactly what to do," Coon said. "They went into their lockdown. They followed the way they were taught. If there would have been more than one young man roaming the halls, there would have been minimal damage because they locked that down so quick."
Andrea Leon, a 13-year-old eighth grader at Berrendo, said students have completed so many drills that some started laughing when the shots first rang out "because they thought it was fake."

Police and schools nationwide adopted "active shooter" policies after Columbine High School students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 classmates and a teacher, and wounded 26 others before killing themselves in the Littleton, Colo., school's library in 1999. Police waited 45 minutes for a SWAT team to arrive before entering the school. Officers now are trained to confront a shooter immediately.

The boy accused in the Roswell shooting was transferred to an Albuquerque psychiatric hospital following a hearing Tuesday. His family said they were thankful the judge ordered that he receive an evaluation and mental health treatment.




Link: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/student-new-mexico-shooting-blood-everywhere



Strange Coincidence!

Musical instrument case, into gun case?

So, I've been kicking around the idea of finding a couple old musical instrument cases, and converting them into gun cases.
I have a coach gun and a 16" bbl 10/22 with a collapsing stock. I'd like to make 1 for each.
The object would be a hard case that doesn't 'scream' gun, when going to and from the house.
Looking for something used, to do this on the cheap.

Has any body here tried this?

Where are good places to search for used cases?

Thanks!
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Guitar cases generally allow space for two thin carbines. Cheap on Craigslist or Amazon ($40)... Visit a music store for a selection and to gauge sizes. A saxophone case will probably handle a shotgun or two with detachable barrels...

A case for bass guitars might accommodate longer rifles/shotguns, and cases for 12-string guitars might allow fatter/more carbines. If you start carting a cello case around, people will start asking you about cellos

A hard case for traveling with a set of golf clubs might be the ticket though... (link). All you need to add are a few golf stickers and you're incognito when loading and unloading your car. If you head to another area for shooting or go to an indoor range, remember that people don't usually golf or visit the driving range in the snow or heavy rain


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I bought a violin case for $5.00 at a garage sale. I had to take the little accessery box out of it but my all black underfolder AK sure looks sweet against the red velvet lining!
It also reminds me of the old gangster movies, " how'd ya like me to play you a tune on my violin?" .......................................................







My coach gun only has 20" barrels so that's the longest piece. I was thinking there must be some kind case that takes a wind instrument (oboe-ish?), as they break down.
Seems that stringed instrument (viola-ish?) would work for the 10/22.
I need to go by a music shop and take measurements.
I'll keep an eye out for old hard golf cases too, good tip.

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 i found a violin case fits a draco and has enough room for a 75 rd drum an a few 30 rd mags.a viola case would probably fit an underfolder.ive used modified guitar cases for rifles for years.im ready for some chamber music!




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I bought a tennis racket case for my KT SU-16C (5.56, .223) or Draco (7.62 X 39). Works for
either and has room for two guns (sorry rackets) in separate compartments and mags in a third. Cost was about $35.

80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!


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Quote Originally Posted by C&H
A hard case for traveling with a set of golf clubs might be the ticket though... All you need to add are a few golf stickers and you're incognito when loading and unloading your car.

Colonel Jack D Ripper found that they also work well for BMG's . "Feed me Mandrake, feed m
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I used to use my bass soft case to "smuggle" my ARs in and out of the house with good success. But have since moved to cases designed for the task. Guns naturally fit better in a case that is designed for a gun, rather than a musical instrument. But a gun "disguise" is cool, let us know what you come up with.
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 I would go non conformist and stay away from the guitar cases. They can sometimes be big and bulky. Since the OP said two
different cases I would go with the Trombone. The Trombone is a long slim case with a bell @ the end. Check music stores. A lot of stores have rental programs with schools. Kids break an instrument and then there are extra cases. Check craigslist also



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